Question from the newsletter-
If you have been to rehab or AA or other sobriety or treatment centers- Did you feel the need to drink or use drugs MORE as a result of the meeting or did you feel the need LESS after the meeting?

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Went to one meeting and needed a drink more than ever.
Had a hard time going through everyone else's stories and pain and drama. I had to fight myself to stay on track.
Before you engage in an indebt discussion about AA you might want to check into the research statistics on its efficacy.
In general, drinker have greater overall and long term success quiting on their own with no outside support such as AA.
If you don't believe this check the research. Think about it, how many people say "I have been sober for ....."
Noone says "I quit drinking back in 19......" even these comments suggest that AA isn't a permanent solution. Check the research....
AA was entirely to negative for me. I felt like a loser and that impacted my selfworth and I went out and drank to restore it.
This doesn't have to be adversarial, If AA works for some, great, it just didn't work for me. I wish all humans sobriety any way they can achieve it.
AA perfectly emulates the Christian faith...admit your need, humble yourself, ask for and receive forgiveness, live free.
Anything can be taken to an extreme. There is good and bad in almost anything I can think of. I have seen much evil in the church and outside of the
church. Recovery can and does work for some. Recovery rates vary
depending on the person, the program, the motivation, and mental stability.
Recovery rates vary from 10\% to 60\% depending on the person and type of treatment. In reality and according to the research, people who go through a
treatment program, and continue with some kind of support structure after treatment have the highest recovery rate.
That support can be in the form of an AA or other 12 step meeting or in some other form. What seems to be important is that continued support happen
to increase long term abstinence. I like what you are doing, and if the hypnosis works for some people, I strongly support that. What I get
uncomfortable with is when people just "vent" and spout opinion without knowing the facts. The facts that I have submitted can be checked out in the
chemical dependency and psychological literature found in most college libraries. Ask the librarian for help.
Finally, I hope to be able to order the cd for quitting drinking soon so I can do some research myself. If I find that the program works,
I will incorporate it into my treatment. I would like nothing better than to have alcoholism or other addictions end without any intervention other
than the cd and hypnosis. I would love to work myself out of a job, but until the, I hope your readers will not write off other methods for recovery.
I invite other comments. Ken McDonnell (bemidjimac@hotmail.com)
I spent 19 years in those rooms, What a relief ?I'm back drinking ? Thank you GOD!
I always looked around and thought well I am not nearly as bad as that poor sob.This kind of thought activity did not help me.
I have been sober for nearly 20 years -- my recovery began with rehab, followed by lots of therapy and lots of AA -- I got connected in AA -- made
new sober friends and in therapy -- learned ways to relax, and have my mind follow...like Wendi promotes. Going to one meeting at the rehab is not
going to give you a fair picture of AA in general. I do other things now -- but my recovery began with the 12 Steps and has worked well for me. But
some people may need other forms of treatment -- one size does NOT fit all -- but give AA it's fair shake too -- it works!
AA is the best thing that's ever happened to me (drugs were a part of my life also). Your method sounds great as a supplement to meetings.
Do people moan & groan at meetings? Sure they do; welcome to Life 101. However, let's not overlook the good stuff, and there's plenty of it.
I have been clean and sober for 11 years through AA. The meetings remind me of the misery that can be mine if I drink again. Live and let live.
Got sober through AA 20 years ago, still am. Your program scares me because you say it's okay to drink. I'll *never* think it's okay to take even one!
Read James Fray's book "A Million Little Pieces" he did it without AA!
Dear Wendi, I've been sober in AA for a little bit over 28 years. Encouragement used to be used, not fear or self loathing.
Why is there a need to rip apart something that has saved many lives ? Why is it so hard to see the good in things and nothing else?Answer: The Ego.
I have not had a drink in 14 years. I went thru 30 days of rehab . after that i was told to go to 30 meatings in thirty days. Which I did not .
The thing that bother me most was that between the smoke and the lie theses people told were enough for me to not to want to go back .
I have a daughter in treatment. AA is very supportive and she enjoys going and working a program, but the craving never seems to let up for her.
I went through rehab and then on to AA. I lasted a total of 4 months without a drink, but I obsessed and thought about it ALL the time.
I did one week in rehab; needed a month but as a single parent I couldn't afford to stay out of work that long.
I followed rehab with a therapist (she was useless) and AA meetings. AA made me CRAVE alcohol!!
It seems to me that if, as AA instructs, you continually tell yourself your an addict with no control then you will be an addict with no control.
AA meeting were too negative for me. Stopped and remain sober on my own.
12-Step was where I discovered I wanted to be an adult, and where I gained many tools and techniques for successful, happy adulthood.
12-Step is also a community into which I know I can walk in any country and feel one of and welcome. This is immeasureable as an antidote to the
lonliness that spun me countless times into substance abuse, including the insobriety of insane thinking. However, I, too, came to wonder about the
perpetual self-hypnosis of identifying oneself by a trait no longer desired.
Hi, Wendy and all! I'm Steven and I worked in a rehab. Rehab is better than nothing. AA works for some but nothing works for all.
I love Wendi. She is great and so are her products. Move toward light and atleast you can see your way ahead! But AA is better than nada.
This is Steven agin! upasaki@aol.com. I invite comments. I have 13 years clean and sober! 6 months is a good start though.
I went to overeater's anonymous to let go of overeating and struggled for years. did your Zen of Thin and got to my goal weight with freedom and ease.
sounds like you went to a bad meeting as well... real recovery is about finding a spiritual path... not wallowing in drunk-alogues
did not drink and went to many AA meetings for 2 years. Not drinking dominated my thoughts as much as drinking did without the destruction.
I have a son who has been through rehab three times but still can't stop drinking. What to you have for the broken hearted MOM?
I find myself fighting to use the CDs as I know i will stop drinking if I do and I dont know if i have enough to take its place!
I went to two over eaters meetings and could not wait to leave and hit mcdonalds on the way home
after I got out of rehab, I was so messed up and crazier than when I went in. I hid in apartment for several weeks, and was afraid of my own shadow.
AA is ok for those who are going to die from drinking... but for moderates, its not that great.
AA replaces one dependancy with another.The readings are full of negative suggestions and bad mental programing.
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There are a lot of addictions, and a lot of options to help. Not just one works for everybody. Each person has to know what will work best for them.
3 years of AA. I was overwhelmed by the negative people in the room. It was taboo to allow someone to show any confidence.
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Nothing works, not AA, not rehab, not even Wendi, if the desire to stop isn't there. Only a deep conviction inside oneself will work.
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A comment from our forum, from a member of our Alcohol Freedom Group.

I have been sober 6 months now after starting. I still listen to them often. It would be easy for me to say this crap doesn't work but instead I listen, write ,workout do what it takes to remain alcohol free. AA didn't help me either, I didn't need people telling me what a shit they are and what bad things they did when they were drinking... been there done that, and to be honest my selfish ass only really cared about me. I love me! I can hear Wendi telling me how proud I should be of myself and the way I am changing and am so happy to be alcohol free. I am proud of myself! The funny thing is I have no desire to drink. When I was not drinking and going to AA meetings My mouth would actually water at the site of a cold beer. Now it does not bother me in the least. I can still play golf and tailgate at games without any desire to join the drinking. So the answer is yes it does work for me, because I want it to work.

-Ken